4 responses to “I Was Looking Forward to Holly Lisle’s Rebel Tales, But…”

  1. John Dye

    Hey man, I appreciate the post. Your perspective is well considered and well articulated. I’m sorry to hear my season profile dented your excitement for Rebel Tales.

    In truth, I agree with you on pretty much every point. Pandering to the lowest common denominator does take the soul out of writing. See all the vampire fiction flooding bookstores. However, as you pointed out, the goal of Rebel Tales is to respark the midlist. The bottom line there is that the writers HAVE TO make money off their work. That’s the whole point. Good writers writing good fiction who can live off their writing.

    Early in the magazine’s construction, Holly posted a forum thread asking readers to explain what they liked and didn’t like in fiction. I took this as a decent sample of Rebel Tales full readership–or at least the readership that would be interested in the first seasons. Some of their preferences go against mine. For example, I too am a fan of personally significant stories rather than global stories of sweeping grandeur. However, that wasn’t what our readers were crying out for.

    My goal as an editor isn’t to create my own personal fiction indulgence magazine–it’s to identify my audience and seek out the kind of fiction THEY want. If we want to save the midlist, we have to pay the writers. If we want to pay the writers, we have to find fiction that has a substantial audience before we flesh out the niches.

    You’re correct in pointing out that many good characters, like Talyn, evade the classifications I’ve laid down for my season. Very true. My list is by no means a guideline for creating solid protagonists. It’s a reflection of the audience base’s opinion. If they wanted vampires–heaven help me–I’d wade through the blood tide and find some vampire stories with heart and zeal and strength. Fortunately for my sanity, they don’t want vampires. They want underdogs. There are only so many times you can read “Underdogs! Give us underdogs!” before you start to think that maybe your readership wants underdogs.

    But never fear. I will not publish soulless fiction. And gimmicks make my eyes bleed. It’s a medical condition. Spontaneous Ocular Hemorrhaging. Also known as Michaelbayitis.

    Bottom line: if it’s good, I will publish it. If it doesn’t fit my current season, I’ll frikkin invent a season that it’ll fit in. For a story to be good, it has to have personal depth. Without depth, I don’t care if it hits every other bullet: I will not publish.

    Anyway, thanks for the post. You’ve got a nice blog here.

    Sincerely,
    ~John

    “The spotted hawk swoops by and accuses me—he complains of my gab and my loitering.
    I too am not a bit tamed—I too am untranslatable;
    I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world.”

    ~Walt Whitman
    From “Song of Myself”

  2. Irrevenant

    John, I’d be a little wary of assuming readers can accurately (a) identify and (b) express the reasons that a particular book grabs them. There’s a saying in IT support that you should listen to a user’s problems and what a user needs, but not necessarily to what they say you should do about it.

    A lot of enjoying a book is visceral, emotional and even subconscious reaction that doesn’t always correlate with what we THINK we like. I certainly am constantly surprising myself with which books I enjoy or not. 🙂

    It may well be more informative to get examples of books/stories that readers loved/hated then analyse that as an experienced professional for popular/unpopular stylistic, thematic and other elements, rather than expecting the reader to be able to isolate that.

    P.S. I ended up here because I visited the Rebel Tales website after a casual mention by Holly, and couldn’t find a clear explanation of what Rebel Tales was. I’ve just realised that the home button is also a dropdown (which isn’t very intuitive or obvious) and neither the “About” or “What is…” menu items are working for me using IE8. Thanks.